After I completed the two articles and video clips, I was introduced to a side of America that I have never heard or read about. First, the article by Cynthia Crossen does in fact act as a déjà vu for past natural disasters in America. The dust bowl in the 1930’s is very similar to that of Hurricane Katrina in 2005. As a the article says, each devastated the areas significantly, changed the way of life and caused mass migrations to other cities that shaped future American life. What I found shocking is the fact that I never made such a comparison after reading about both and they are mirror image of each other’s events. Next, from the NBC dateline news clip to the Florida Slave article, each introduced to me a shameful part of our nation. For many years our country had fought and succeeded in destroying slavery, and yet today, it is still apparent. I agree with the statement that, “…most Americans would find it hard to believe that people in our country are pleading guilty to slavery…” I knew a form of slavery took place in such circumstances but never was I aware that 11 and 12 year olds were at the core of the torture. Or that people are chained and held “against their will” to do work. It is just astonishing that events like this occur and that people are willing to ignore as long as their grapefruit or berries are picked for Sunday morning brunch. After reading and watching these events occur in Texas and Florida is there a possibility or known fact that the same goes on other places in our country? And how is this form of slavery still allowed?
The video, “America Now: Children of the Harvest” was very impactful. I can’t believe parents have their children doing that kind of manual labor at such a young age. The images shown of children as young as two picking blueberries were astounding. I felt sorry that they have to carry around those heavy bins of fruits and vegetables around their waists and on their backs. It is terrible that they are already feeling the consequences. For example, the young boy who said his backbone hurt or the girl who wished just to have some rest. I think they have an amazing work ethic and the desire to help their parents make ends meet is very strong. I think they are such selfless children for helping their family in the way they do. It made me want to be useful to my family as well. I also enjoyed how the video mentioned the irony of the law that makes it legal for a 12 year old to pick blueberries in a field all day but illegal for them to work stocking the blueberries on a shelf in a store. The article by Cynthia Crossen states “Whole families worked in the fields, earning barely enough to feed themselves. When one crop was harvested, the workers moved on to the next.” This reminded me of the video clip which showed the family moving along to field after field with all their belongings packed into their rusty old van. Their spur of the moment breakdowns and repairs reminded me of the Joad’s journey and all the struggles they faced while on their journey. It seems to me as if history is repeating itself in a way. Also, after reading the articles and viewing the clip, I found an interesting contrast between views on migrant work. In Crossen’s article, a journalist is quoted saying, “[The migrant workers] were festering sores of miserable humanity” while in the video clip Pablo took pride in his work saying “I think the migrant worker is the happiest worker in the world.” Overall both sources of material were very enlightening and thought provoking.
Discussion Question: Do you think it is fair that a child can work in a field at 12 years of age but cannot hold a job inside of a store? Sophia G. Period 5
I was outraged after reading about the farm workers kept as slaves by the field bosses on farms. I never imagined that something like that would occur during this day and age. It seems like a story from a history book about the 1800s. And even though most cases aren’t so extreme, there are still many people working on farms who shouldn’t have to. The video made me feel sad for those children who were working in the fields when they should be playing. Although the father liked doing farm work, his children would probably rather be out enjoying their childhood. It’s ridiculous that children are able to work in fields at the age of 12, when they aren’t allowed to be working in stores or other jobs at that age. The government should provide more aid to families that need it, so that children aren’t forced to work.
Why does the government insist on keeping the law allowing children as young as 12 to work on farms?
Sophia, I thought it was very interesting how you pointed out the different views regarding the migrant workers; how the journalist thought of them as almost inhuman beings, while Pablo thinks his family is very fortunate to be migrant workers. It is astounding how people can have such different views on migrant workers. I think that it is ridiculous that children at the age of 12 can work in the fields but not in a store; field work is much harder work, and such strenuous physical work can harm a child’s development. It seems to me that the government just cares less about the welfare of migrant children than that of those living in cities or suburbs. Jenny L. 6
After watching the video clip, I was stunned and highly disappointed in America. According to the video, it is legal for children to work on the farm at the age of 12. However, in the video, some of the children are under 12. Starting out on the farm so young will eventually affect their health. It is possible that they will have back problems. Also, a children's job is to go to school, learn, and lead a fun and fulfilling life without too many worries. By making their children work on the farm instead of going to school and doing youthful activities, I feel that the parents have robbed their kids of their childhood. Also, by not going to school, the children may not realize that there's a better life outside of farming. This will affect their quality of life, as they may get too accustomed to working on the farm instead of getting a job. I feel that a chance at education is the best gift a parent could give their child, so I resent their parents for this reason. I was very disturbed, knowing that these children may not see another life outside of the farm.
The article, Déjà Vu by Cynthia Crossen, basically described all of the harsh conditions of the Great Depression that I read about in "The Grapes of Wrath." Photographers, like Dorothea Lange, Ben Shahn, and Walker Evans were crucial during this time because without the pictures, we wouldn't have as deep of an understanding of how terrible the 1930's were for Americans. The old cliche, "a picture speaks 1000 words" is very true. When the class looked at photos from The Dust Bowl, some students were shocked as to how bad it really was. In the article, I was VERY surprised to find out that the LAPD arrested "all persons who have no definite purpose for entering the state, and are without visible means of support." This violates the first amendment that gives Americans the freedoms of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Who knew that trying to make a better life for one's self is a crime?
Lastly, the article by Bill Maxwell was shocking to me. I am disappointed that it took two years for officials to realize that Cesar Navarette and Geovanni Navarette were enslaving farm workers. I also think that 12 years of jail time is not enough. The slaves could possibly face post-traumatic trauma after sleeping in a locked furniture van, being chained and beaten, and urinating in a corner of the van. This is not a healthy environment for people to live in. This article made me wonder if enslavement is occurring in Connecticut.
How can we make sure that enslavement isn't happening? Is there even a way?
After watching the video clip "Children of the Harvest," I was moved by the young girl who had worked in the fields since she was eight. When they asked her what she thought about working, she said that she was proud to be helping her parents, although she wanted rest. Most children aren't even willing to help their parents with chores around the house. How do you think need and hard labor affect people's behaviors and attitudes?
After reading about slavery in Florida, I was shocked. I had absolutely no idea that slavery in this form was present in our country. I've heard of sex trafficing and that type of slavery, but this form is something I thought disappeared long ago. How many Americans do you think are aware of this?
Alexis-reading about the slavery made me think that my family should get tomatoes from a local place that we know doesn't have slaves. I know my dad chooses to get produce from Medlyn's farm to support their local business, but another reason to do this is to be sure we aren't getting tomatoes from a place with slaves. Maybe more people could try to be aware of where their products are coming from, and that might help end the slavery.
It outrages me that kids as young as 5 or 6 are working in the fields! Even tho some people such as Pablo believe that "migrant workers are the happiest in the world" it seems extremely wrong. The families and kids live in terrible conditions, moving from field to field eating things such as uncooked hot dogs and living out of their van. There are even two year olds starting work in the farm business! in my opinion it is just simply ridiculous. Even worse is the fact that there are some workers on farms that are being held as slaves! forced to live in locked van with a rent of 20$ a week! they were forced to go to the bathroom in the corner of the van. many workers live in inhumane conditions like this and its extremely bad and something needs to be done. Lastly, when these people were fleeing out of their homeland of New Orleans, why was there no one there to help them? why did our government not offer them aid when they were forced to gather their few belongings and leave their land. When they were forced to make a long, hard, painful journey it is just wrong. it seems like nothing has changed over the years. My question to you is why has our government not learned over the years on subjects like slavery and helping people in need? Jarrett L. Period 5
alexis, I was asking myself the same exact question. In my mind the only way we would be able to do that would be to send people to do random checks on farms to make sure there are no slaves, or migrant workers that are under age. In my mind we should really figure out a way to be able to control all of this otherwise i believe that it is going to get out of control. Jarrett L. period 5.
I don't think that it's fair that a child can work on a farm at the age of 12, but not in a store. There are many risks and hazards on a farm, like dangerous machinery, poison ivy, heat - related sicknesses, etc. I believe that working on a farm is harder labor than working in a store. Hopefully the government will revise these laws. Great question!
After reading and watching the videos my thoughts on America were truly impacted. Crossen's article especially really caught my attention. It's amazing how one thing such as a hurricane can impact a country just as much as a major depression. Both of which played a HUGE role in our economy. Which brings me to my next point: NBC's clip "America Now: Children of the Harvest" appalled me. After all the pain and suffering men and women encountered in our nation's history, people are still wiling to punish people based upon their race, class, age, etc. You'd think after all our country and it's people have been through together, having to unite as one, more peace would come about the people. It astonishes me that slavery still exists and that children are exposed to such poor treatment to this very day.
Does tragedy truly bring people together? Or does it encourage more negatives including slavery & hard labor?
The video, “Children of the Harvest” was really touching and depressing to watch. Those poor children lost their childhood in an attempt in helping their family make ends meet. The most disturbing truth to it was that it was their own parents who needed their help; not even the bosses. In fact, the bosses were stuck in a hard place about this since if they allow the children to work, not only is it unethical, but also illegal. But if they don’t allow the children to work, they are denying a family’s chance to increase their paycheck. I was disgusted with the article, “Florida fields being picked by slave labor.” I was astonished at how people could treat others like that, especially in this day and age, and even more importantly in this country; where we pride ourselves with being a “free land.” It amazed me that even in the 21st century, our country is still living in the shadow of our shameful past.
I saw many similarities between the video “Children of the Harvest” and the Joad family in "Grapes of Wrath," such as the theme of family values, and everyone pitching in to help the common good. What other similarities did you notice?
Ryan, I also was shocked to learn that slavery still continues to be present in this country, even though it was outlawed decades ago. It also made me question where else in this country such things are still taking place. If I had no idea of these happenings before reading the article, i can be almost positive that its happening in other areas as well. I think its the media's duty to expose such events and not only inform the people, but also promote government action.
I don't think it's the least bit fair that a child at the age of 12 can actually work in a field but can't hold a job. I feel as if a child so young is willing to work their reasons behind it are completely understandable & responsible.
In all honesty, any suggestion that children should be able to work on farms or in factories should never be illegal. We have labor laws to protect the lives and jobs of Americans of age to work, and I think a law to lower the working age on a farm to 12 would NOT end well. Whether it be in harm or poor product creation. I'm merely concerned for the lives of children, which should not be sacrificed because of unemployment among families.
What do everyone think the age for work should be? Why?
Video: -As I watched the video, I had one of those moments where I realize how lucky I really am. It boggles my mind to think of what these kids have to do everyday and how they are missing out on the best time of life; your childhood. I also think it is crazy how little James missed summer school for picking and ended up killing his back. Kids here at Branford complain about summer school and don't realize that they are lucky they don't have to go pick vegetables in the hot sun. I also think it is crazy that it is legal for 12 year olds to work in the field all day in the hot sun. Just watching this video made me feel guilty when I get lazy because I often don't realize how lucky I am to have my family and to have such a great education.
"Florida Fields..." -The bosses of the slaves in this article truly bother me. How could they be so cruel to the point where they lock their slaves in a van with no place to go to the bathroom? I am so embarrassed that America is filled with people like these who only care about money and not the lives of other human beings. It also disgusts me in the article where it says that government officials in Florida didn't show much outrage over the case. After reading this article, I know that I'll feel bad eating my daily fruit filled breakfast now that I know who is picking and who is getting the money.
"Americans who fled drought..." -This was another article where I feel like children missed out on life, or at least childhood. It bothered me that wealthier kids at school called the migrant children "hobo brats" and often made fun of them. No one should feel ashamed of their background and should never be made fun of because they don't have much money. I wish I could have told these kids not to worry about the mean kids at school and to just keep their eyes on the future. Lastly, I never thought of relating the GOW situation to Hurricane Katrina, because they are very much alike. I'm so glad that, although times were rough at one point, some of the people in New Orleans have kept their heads up and are trying to get their city back on track.
After watching the video of the migrant families working in the fields, I wasn't too shocked. I feel sad for the two year olds and the six year olds that are out in the sun all day working, damaging their backs and bodies at such a young age. However, this did not come as a surprise to me because it is human instinct to survive, and if a family needs a few extra hands to survive in this world, they will use them. I did learn from this video that the working age on farms is only 12 years old which did surprise me a little. I think this is a very common practice among lower class families because of the great need of money. After reading, “Americans Who Fled Drought in the 1930’s Found Little Sympathy” by Cynthia Crossen, I definitely believe that people now a days are becoming a little too dependent on the government, federal and state. Generations before now clearly did what they had to survive, and they illustrated perfectly the law of survival of the fittest to us. Those who moved and adapted to their situations were the people who lived and maybe even thrived from their experience. When Hurricane Katrina hit, and the government warned people to move, and no one did, everyone turned to the President for aid and assistance. Although the government should give some help to those of its people who are in need, it cannot spend all of its money saving citizens who don’t listen, move, and don’t try to help themselves. Hurricane Katrina was a tragedy, but it didn’t have to be so bad, and that is why I agree with the title of this article of not finding sympathy. Those who were in the drought were in the same situation as Hurricane Katrina and the Dust Bowl and didn’t show as much of a will to survive as those living during the Dust Bowl. Out of these three situations, the people of the Dust Bowl clearly were the most apt to push forward and work hard for their own well-being and survival while the people during these two other times acted helpless and lazy at times. “Florida fields being picked by slave labor” by Bill Maxwell really opened my eyes to the horrors that still exist in this country. I can’t believe the things the Navarette’s pleaded guilty to, they were too brutal. Slavery clearly still does exist in the US even though it isn’t legal or open anymore. People who know about these things need to speak out and stop these injustices. I believe farmer’s should be able to unionize because that would give them more protection and leverage. At this point, owners of the plantations may have to suffer a little because of some very cruel actions made by particular farm owners. *Why would a farm be an exception to the working age? *Why are people becoming so dependent on the government? How can we make people more independent, capable, and strong? *Why do people think it’s okay to things like beat, chain, drug, and hold hostage their workers? Why is slavery still going on today?
Your thoughts on the articles were truly amazing. I really liked this section of your summary.
"After all the pain and suffering men and women encountered in our nation's history, people are still wiling to punish people based upon their race, class, age, etc. You'd think after all our country and it's people have been through together, having to unite as one, more peace would come about the people. It astonishes me that slavery still exists and that children are exposed to such poor treatment to this very day."
I could not have put it into better words and I completely agree with you. You would think that after such a tough history of discrimination we would move on from that. I really can't understand how people STILL are not treated equally and this article definitely shows that America is not truly what it says it is.
After watching the video of the migrant families working in the fields, I wasn't too shocked. I feel sad for the two year olds and the six year olds that are out in the sun all day working, damaging their backs and bodies at such a young age. However, this did not come as a surprise to me because it is human instinct to survive, and if a family needs a few extra hands to survive in this world, they will use them. I did learn from this video that the working age on farms is only 12 years old which did surprise me a little. I think this is a very common practice among lower class families because of the great need of money. After reading, “Americans Who Fled Drought in the 1930’s Found Little Sympathy” by Cynthia Crossen, I definitely believe that people now a days are becoming a little too dependent on the government, federal and state. Generations before now clearly did what they had to survive, and they illustrated perfectly the law of survival of the fittest to us. When Hurricane Katrina hit, and the government warned people to move, and no one did, everyone turned to the President for aid and assistance. Although the government should give some help to those of its people who are in need, it cannot spend all of its money saving citizens who don’t try to help themselves. Hurricane Katrina was a tragedy, but it didn’t have to be so bad, and that is why I agree with the title of this article of not finding sympathy. Those who were in the drought were in the same situation as Hurricane Katrina and the Dust Bowl and didn’t show as much of a will to survive as those living during the Dust Bowl. Out of these three situations, the people of the Dust Bowl clearly were the most apt to push forward and work hard for their own well-being and survival while the people during these two other times acted helpless and lazy at times. “Florida fields being picked by slave labor” by Bill Maxwell really opened my eyes to the horrors that still exist in this country. I can’t believe the things the Navarette’s pleaded guilty to, they were too brutal. Slavery clearly still does exist in the US even though it isn’t legal or open anymore. People who know about these things need to speak out and stop these injustices. I believe farmer’s should be able to unionize because that would give them more protection and leverage. At this point, owners of the plantations may have to suffer a little because of some very cruel actions made by particular farm owners. *Why would a farm be an exception to the working age? *Why do people think it’s okay to things like beat, chain, drug, and hold hostage their workers?
The video, “America Now: Children of the Harvest” had the strongest impact on me. It is hard for me to believe that there are situations in which parents can justify making their children work like that. The most shocking parts of the video for me were the images of the youngest children doing work that many grown adults would not be able to do. It is also clearly evident that they are already experiencing consequences of the work they do, which will most likely affect them for the rest of their life, like the boy with back pains. It is unbelievable to be that these children do not complain about the manual labor they are completing, but only of helping their family survive just one more day. The video makes me wonder at the little things I am expected to do, but complain about so much, while there are others who work so hard and have so much less than me. The article we read, authored by Cynthia Crossen, said, “Whole families worked in the fields, earning barely enough to feed themselves. When one crop was harvested, the workers moved on to the next.” This reminds me so much of the Joad family and their struggles to make ends meet, just trying to get by. It seems that things don't change so much as we think they do, the only thing that changes is the name we give to it. I do think that both the articles and the video helped me to understand present-day America much more. Question: Does history truly repeat itself, or do things change enough to make them different than what has already happened, their own entities? Sophia: I don't think it is fair that they can hold a job in the fields but not in a store. Furthermore, I don't think it's right that they can even hold a job in the field in the first place! Children should be in school learning, not in fields picking blueberries to help their family. No child should be forced to that.
I'm sure it is very possible that some of these things happen in CT just like they do in Florida and California, however, I'm sure that they don't happen to that degree. This is mostly because in CT we don't have very many large farms and plantations like Florida and California, which provide most of our produce. Sadly, this type of slavery is still going on because it is hidden from the public eye and those who do know about it don't speak out against it. It is shameful that these things still go on in our country which is looked upon as a country of freedoms.
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p.s. Mrs. Baker, I wrote my comments and reactions in a word document before I tried to post it and it was too big...I didn't know what to get rid of so I'm just going to print it for you!
Bill Maxwell's article really made me think about what goes into a customer getting food for cheap prices. I am appalled at the fact that this day in age there is still slavery going on. Every man is created equal, and it is disgusting that any boss would abuse their workers, never mind keeping their workers in chains. I was shocked to read that these fields in Florida aren't being watched more carefully. If farmers can't form unions, then it should be the towns responsibility to watch over the farms and make sure nothing shady is going on. I also never realized how similar America's natural disasters are to each other. Hurricane Katrina and the Dust Bowl were two major disasters in the U.S. that left thousands of people devistated. They left entire cities of people homeless and starving. I can't believe I never drew a parallel to these two disasters before! Lastly, after watching the video, and the two articles I wonder if this form of slavery happens in other places? Why aren't authorities monitering these farms better?
After reading the two articles and watching the clip, the one idea that sticks in the back of my head beyond all other topics is how fortunate I am for the life I live. It makes me think of all the times i say "Oh my god i have no clothes" when really I have a whole closet full. Or when I say "Mom we have no food" when the whole clothes is full of snacks that I just don't feel like. It makes me feel extremely fortunate for the life that I live. I complain about going to school everyday while some children don't even get to go to school and get an education because they are forced to go work in the fields. Not only to they have to work in the fields, but the working conditions are not good at at all and definitely not safe, especially for children. Reading the article about the slavery that still goes on in Florida today makes me very upset to read about. I had no idea that things like this were still going on, and I don't think that many other people in America do either. It makes me think if there are more acts of slavery going on in other parts of our country today that we just don't know about. Overall reading these articles and watching the video left me thinking of how fortunate I should be for the life I live.
As i read about the child labor, I wonder if more people knew about this issue or other issues like child labor in factories would they not buy those clothes? Or as someone else said would people try to use local farms instead if chain markets?
In my opinion it would be great to be able to buy clothes that I knew were made only in the US and fresh fruit and veggies always from the local farm stand, but when it comes down to it my family and I can not afford to acts such as these along with many other families right now.
I feel that the news video caught my attention the most. I thought it was horrible how there were kids as young as 5 working on a farm all day long in the heat. That is not the right environment for kids that little. I found it surprising that it is allowed to have a child as young as 12 years legally "slaving" themselves out on a farm all day long harvesting crops. I feel if there is a law on a real job and farming labor, then the ages should be switched around. A lower age for an indoor job with food, water, and breaks, and a higher age for a job out in the fields. I was also shocked by the kind of slavery that still exists in America today. I thought that was stopped years ago! All of this has definitely changed my views on America a little bit. Why is it that America thinks children can work out in a field all day long at a younger age than they can at somewhere like a restaurant or a store? -Jess B. p.5
Your final question really had a huge impact on my views after reading these articles, watching the clip, and reading others blogs. I feel that your question that states, Does tragedy truly bring people together? Or does it encourage more negatives including slavery & hard labor? is right on the dot! Before reading this i would have thought that in some cases certain people and groups can be brought together by tragedy cause it can help them to get through things and in cases respond to the issue. Like in The Grapes of Wrath when the migrants would come to together to rebel against the farms and the police because they are stronger as a whole. Then I read things like these articles and your question, when i think of all that america went through and goes through still today to put a stop t slavery, and to hear it is still happening makes me mad and upset, and really leaves me thinking. Awsome post! Love you, Grace!
Katrice, I completely agree with your thoughts on the slavery, I wrote like the same thing. I was so surprised that it still existed like that today. To answer your question I think that the hard labor will affect people in a negative way. It will cause them to feel fatigued and may also cause bad attitudes because they become so tired. -Jess B.
What caught my attention the most was when in the video they said that these children were old enough to do back breaking labor in fields yet they were too young to be working to stock shelves in a small grocery store. Does that seem fair? Another thing that I really thought about was the song "The ghost of Tom Joad". If you listen to both versions of it, Rage Against the Machine really does a nice job of showing the anger of someone that would have dealt with the things most of the migrant families dealt with back during the dust bowl, and the song mainly all about the book, but in many cases, I feel it really relates to present day poverty. It all has to do with prevailing in times of injustice, like police brutality, etc.
Like I mentioned earlier, do you think it's fair that these children can pick in fields but can't work in a store?
You pose a great question. I didn't really think about the real use of child labor laws until I read your comment. I'm not sure if lowering the age would do any good... I have a feeling more people would lose their jobs, and I feel like no offense to 12 year olds... but that's just way too young to handle a job. Hell in middle school you're new to 5th grade and you can barely get your head around that... let alone a job. But I do think it wouldn't hurt if the age was lowered to 15, because I think it's not much of a difference from 16 and I'm pretty sure it's manageable.
The video clip outraged me. I was shocked that children of such a young age were forced to do manual labor on farms.Throughout the entire video, I felt an imense amount of compassion for the children. Additionally, I felt extremely grateful that I do not have to perform that kind of labor at all in my life. In my opinion, children should be going to school, playing with friends, and enjoying the normal activites that children do, not working on a farm. I think that most children felt bad for their parents, and felt as if it was their job to help support, because they knew no different. In the article by Cynthia Crossen, I was bothered that during the time of the Great Depression, there was no financial help offered to anyone. I did not know that this was a time period before food stamps or Medicaid. The article as well as the Krause family mentioned in the article remidns me of what the Joad family suffered through in The Grapes of Wrath. The slavery acts in Florida also made a huge impact on me. Personally, I think that the time period of slavery was the worst time period America ever went through. The thought of using another human sickens me and I am apaulled that it is still relevant. The handout about The Dust Bowl really gave me a mental picture of what the country looked like during this devastating time. I could just imagine what the farmers had to go through. I saw how desperate people were for work and how hard it was to find it. These four sources gave me a better understanding of how people were forced to live during the Dust Bowl and Great Depression in America.
Do you think that the country could have done more to help Americans during the Great Depression, or do you think it was impossible for the government to do anything about it?
Ryan, you made some awesome points in your response. I am one of the Americans that find it hard to believe that people in our country are still pleading guilty to slavery as well. In regards to your question, I would not doubt that in some places in our country (possibly still in the south) there are still some forms of slavery occuring. To me, slavery can also be described as a job where you are physically abused, making an unreasonable amount of money, and you are unable to get out of the job. People go through this every day, but the government does not know.
The video clip outraged me. I was shocked that children of such a young age were forced to do manual labor on farms.Throughout the entire video, I felt an imense amount of compassion for the children. Additionally, I felt extremely grateful that I do not have to perform that kind of labor at all in my life. In my opinion, children should be going to school, playing with friends, and enjoying the normal activites that children do, not working on a farm. I think that most children felt bad for their parents, and felt as if it was their job to help support, because they knew no different. In the article by Cynthia Crossen, I was bothered that during the time of the Great Depression, there was no financial help offered to anyone. I did not know that this was a time period before food stamps or Medicaid. The article as well as the Krause family mentioned in the article remidns me of what the Joad family suffered through in The Grapes of Wrath. The slavery acts in Florida also made a huge impact on me. Personally, I think that the time period of slavery was the worst time period America ever went through. The thought of using another human sickens me and I am apaulled that it is still relevant. The handout about The Dust Bowl really gave me a mental picture of what the country looked like during this devastating time. I could just imagine what the farmers had to go through. I saw how desperate people were for work and how hard it was to find it. These four sources gave me a better understanding of how people were forced to live during the Dust Bowl and Great Depression in America.
Do you think that the country could have done more to help Americans during the Great Depression, or do you think it was impossible for the government to do anything about it?
Ryan, you made some awesome points in your response. I am one of the Americans that find it hard to believe that people in our country are still pleading guilty to slavery as well. In regards to your question, I would not doubt that in some places in our country (possibly still in the south) there are still some forms of slavery occuring. To me, slavery can also be described as a job where you are physically abused, making an unreasonable amount of money, and you are unable to get out of the job. People go through this every day, but the government does not know.
When this assignment was assigned, I was surprised, when reading the articles and watching the news clip. These children at the young age of 11 and 12 are doing work that is far beyond where they are in their childhood. Its one thing to help your parents in the summer by not being selfless but the work they are doing is too much for a child to have to bare. It really got me self reflecting on what I have and how fortunate I am. If my parents wanted me to work in a farm all summer long, I wouldn't be happy. It's hard to believe our child labor laws aren't being enforced to an extent. It was heartbreaking, to see the little girl in the news clip, that had just probably learned how to walk, helping her family. What should the legal age be to work? Reema C. Period 5
You bring up a good point, but I believe those are two completely different things. For one, the work is on two different levels. Working on a farm is labor work , while catering is something else. In other words, in the summer you could volunteer to work on a farm but not at a restaurant.
After I completed the two articles and video clips, I was introduced to a side of America that I have never heard or read about. First, the article by Cynthia Crossen does in fact act as a déjà vu for past natural disasters in America. The dust bowl in the 1930’s is very similar to that of Hurricane Katrina in 2005. As a the article says, each devastated the areas significantly, changed the way of life and caused mass migrations to other cities that shaped future American life. What I found shocking is the fact that I never made such a comparison after reading about both and they are mirror image of each other’s events. Next, from the NBC dateline news clip to the Florida Slave article, each introduced to me a shameful part of our nation. For many years our country had fought and succeeded in destroying slavery, and yet today, it is still apparent. I agree with the statement that, “…most Americans would find it hard to believe that people in our country are pleading guilty to slavery…” I knew a form of slavery took place in such circumstances but never was I aware that 11 and 12 year olds were at the core of the torture. Or that people are chained and held “against their will” to do work. It is just astonishing that events like this occur and that people are willing to ignore as long as their grapefruit or berries are picked for Sunday morning brunch.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading and watching these events occur in Texas and Florida is there a possibility or known fact that the same goes on other places in our country? And how is this form of slavery still allowed?
Ryan H. Per. 5
The video, “America Now: Children of the Harvest” was very impactful. I can’t believe parents have their children doing that kind of manual labor at such a young age. The images shown of children as young as two picking blueberries were astounding. I felt sorry that they have to carry around those heavy bins of fruits and vegetables around their waists and on their backs. It is terrible that they are already feeling the consequences. For example, the young boy who said his backbone hurt or the girl who wished just to have some rest. I think they have an amazing work ethic and the desire to help their parents make ends meet is very strong. I think they are such selfless children for helping their family in the way they do. It made me want to be useful to my family as well. I also enjoyed how the video mentioned the irony of the law that makes it legal for a 12 year old to pick blueberries in a field all day but illegal for them to work stocking the blueberries on a shelf in a store. The article by Cynthia Crossen states
ReplyDelete“Whole families worked in the fields, earning barely enough to feed themselves. When one crop was harvested, the workers moved on to the next.” This reminded me of the video clip which showed the family moving along to field after field with all their belongings packed into their rusty old van. Their spur of the moment breakdowns and repairs reminded me of the Joad’s journey and all the struggles they faced while on their journey. It seems to me as if history is repeating itself in a way. Also, after reading the articles and viewing the clip, I found an interesting contrast between views on migrant work. In Crossen’s article, a journalist is quoted saying, “[The migrant workers] were festering sores of miserable humanity” while in the video clip Pablo took pride in his work saying “I think the migrant worker is the happiest worker in the world.” Overall both sources of material were very enlightening and thought provoking.
Discussion Question: Do you think it is fair that a child can work in a field at 12 years of age but cannot hold a job inside of a store?
Sophia G. Period 5
I was outraged after reading about the farm workers kept as slaves by the field bosses on farms. I never imagined that something like that would occur during this day and age. It seems like a story from a history book about the 1800s. And even though most cases aren’t so extreme, there are still many people working on farms who shouldn’t have to. The video made me feel sad for those children who were working in the fields when they should be playing. Although the father liked doing farm work, his children would probably rather be out enjoying their childhood. It’s ridiculous that children are able to work in fields at the age of 12, when they aren’t allowed to be working in stores or other jobs at that age. The government should provide more aid to families that need it, so that children aren’t forced to work.
ReplyDeleteWhy does the government insist on keeping the law allowing children as young as 12 to work on farms?
Jenny L. 6
Sophia,
ReplyDeleteI thought it was very interesting how you pointed out the different views regarding the migrant workers; how the journalist thought of them as almost inhuman beings, while Pablo thinks his family is very fortunate to be migrant workers. It is astounding how people can have such different views on migrant workers. I think that it is ridiculous that children at the age of 12 can work in the fields but not in a store; field work is much harder work, and such strenuous physical work can harm a child’s development. It seems to me that the government just cares less about the welfare of migrant children than that of those living in cities or suburbs.
Jenny L. 6
After watching the video clip, I was stunned and highly disappointed in America. According to the video, it is legal for children to work on the farm at the age of 12. However, in the video, some of the children are under 12. Starting out on the farm so young will eventually affect their health. It is possible that they will have back problems. Also, a children's job is to go to school, learn, and lead a fun and fulfilling life without too many worries. By making their children work on the farm instead of going to school and doing youthful activities, I feel that the parents have robbed their kids of their childhood. Also, by not going to school, the children may not realize that there's a better life outside of farming. This will affect their quality of life, as they may get too accustomed to working on the farm instead of getting a job. I feel that a chance at education is the best gift a parent could give their child, so I resent their parents for this reason. I was very disturbed, knowing that these children may not see another life outside of the farm.
ReplyDeleteThe article, Déjà Vu by Cynthia Crossen, basically described all of the harsh conditions of the Great Depression that I read about in "The Grapes of Wrath." Photographers, like Dorothea Lange, Ben Shahn, and Walker Evans were crucial during this time because without the pictures, we wouldn't have as deep of an understanding of how terrible the 1930's were for Americans. The old cliche, "a picture speaks 1000 words" is very true. When the class looked at photos from The Dust Bowl, some students were shocked as to how bad it really was. In the article, I was VERY surprised to find out that the LAPD arrested "all persons who have no definite purpose for entering the state, and are without visible means of support." This violates the first amendment that gives Americans the freedoms of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Who knew that trying to make a better life for one's self is a crime?
Lastly, the article by Bill Maxwell was shocking to me. I am disappointed that it took two years for officials to realize that Cesar Navarette and Geovanni Navarette were enslaving farm workers. I also think that 12 years of jail time is not enough. The slaves could possibly face post-traumatic trauma after sleeping in a locked furniture van, being chained and beaten, and urinating in a corner of the van. This is not a healthy environment for people to live in. This article made me wonder if enslavement is occurring in Connecticut.
How can we make sure that enslavement isn't happening? Is there even a way?
Alexis M, Period 5
After watching the video clip "Children of the Harvest," I was moved by the young girl who had worked in the fields since she was eight. When they asked her what she thought about working, she said that she was proud to be helping her parents, although she wanted rest. Most children aren't even willing to help their parents with chores around the house. How do you think need and hard labor affect people's behaviors and attitudes?
ReplyDeleteAfter reading about slavery in Florida, I was shocked. I had absolutely no idea that slavery in this form was present in our country. I've heard of sex trafficing and that type of slavery, but this form is something I thought disappeared long ago. How many Americans do you think are aware of this?
Alexis-reading about the slavery made me think that my family should get tomatoes from a local place that we know doesn't have slaves. I know my dad chooses to get produce from Medlyn's farm to support their local business, but another reason to do this is to be sure we aren't getting tomatoes from a place with slaves. Maybe more people could try to be aware of where their products are coming from, and that might help end the slavery.
-Katrice K, period 5
It outrages me that kids as young as 5 or 6 are working in the fields! Even tho some people such as Pablo believe that "migrant workers are the happiest in the world" it seems extremely wrong. The families and kids live in terrible conditions, moving from field to field eating things such as uncooked hot dogs and living out of their van. There are even two year olds starting work in the farm business! in my opinion it is just simply ridiculous. Even worse is the fact that there are some workers on farms that are being held as slaves! forced to live in locked van with a rent of 20$ a week! they were forced to go to the bathroom in the corner of the van. many workers live in inhumane conditions like this and its extremely bad and something needs to be done. Lastly, when these people were fleeing out of their homeland of New Orleans, why was there no one there to help them? why did our government not offer them aid when they were forced to gather their few belongings and leave their land. When they were forced to make a long, hard, painful journey it is just wrong. it seems like nothing has changed over the years.
ReplyDeleteMy question to you is why has our government not learned over the years on subjects like slavery and helping people in need?
Jarrett L. Period 5
alexis,
ReplyDeleteI was asking myself the same exact question. In my mind the only way we would be able to do that would be to send people to do random checks on farms to make sure there are no slaves, or migrant workers that are under age. In my mind we should really figure out a way to be able to control all of this otherwise i believe that it is going to get out of control.
Jarrett L. period 5.
Sophie,
ReplyDeleteI don't think that it's fair that a child can work on a farm at the age of 12, but not in a store. There are many risks and hazards on a farm, like dangerous machinery, poison ivy, heat - related sicknesses, etc. I believe that working on a farm is harder labor than working in a store. Hopefully the government will revise these laws. Great question!
Alexis M :)
After reading and watching the videos my thoughts on America were truly impacted. Crossen's article especially really caught my attention. It's amazing how one thing such as a hurricane can impact a country just as much as a major depression. Both of which played a HUGE role in our economy. Which brings me to my next point: NBC's clip "America Now: Children of the Harvest" appalled me. After all the pain and suffering men and women encountered in our nation's history, people are still wiling to punish people based upon their race, class, age, etc. You'd think after all our country and it's people have been through together, having to unite as one, more peace would come about the people. It astonishes me that slavery still exists and that children are exposed to such poor treatment to this very day.
ReplyDeleteDoes tragedy truly bring people together? Or does it encourage more negatives including slavery & hard labor?
Jenna L.
P5
The video, “Children of the Harvest” was really touching and depressing to watch. Those poor children lost their childhood in an attempt in helping their family make ends meet. The most disturbing truth to it was that it was their own parents who needed their help; not even the bosses. In fact, the bosses were stuck in a hard place about this since if they allow the children to work, not only is it unethical, but also illegal. But if they don’t allow the children to work, they are denying a family’s chance to increase their paycheck. I was disgusted with the article, “Florida fields being picked by slave labor.” I was astonished at how people could treat others like that, especially in this day and age, and even more importantly in this country; where we pride ourselves with being a “free land.” It amazed me that even in the 21st century, our country is still living in the shadow of our shameful past.
ReplyDeleteI saw many similarities between the video “Children of the Harvest” and the Joad family in "Grapes of Wrath," such as the theme of family values, and everyone pitching in to help the common good. What other similarities did you notice?
Ryan, I also was shocked to learn that slavery still continues to be present in this country, even though it was outlawed decades ago. It also made me question where else in this country such things are still taking place. If I had no idea of these happenings before reading the article, i can be almost positive that its happening in other areas as well. I think its the media's duty to expose such events and not only inform the people, but also promote government action.
Sreedevi D P6
Sophia,
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's the least bit fair that a child at the age of 12 can actually work in a field but can't hold a job. I feel as if a child so young is willing to work their reasons behind it are completely understandable & responsible.
JL
p5
In all honesty, any suggestion that children should be able to work on farms or in factories should never be illegal.
ReplyDeleteWe have labor laws to protect the lives and jobs of Americans of age to work, and I think a law to lower the working age on a farm to 12 would NOT end well. Whether it be in harm or poor product creation.
I'm merely concerned for the lives of children, which should not be sacrificed because of unemployment among families.
What do everyone think the age for work should be? Why?
Noah PERIOD 5
Video:
ReplyDelete-As I watched the video, I had one of those moments where I realize how lucky I really am. It boggles my mind to think of what these kids have to do everyday and how they are missing out on the best time of life; your childhood. I also think it is crazy how little James missed summer school for picking and ended up killing his back. Kids here at Branford complain about summer school and don't realize that they are lucky they don't have to go pick vegetables in the hot sun. I also think it is crazy that it is legal for 12 year olds to work in the field all day in the hot sun. Just watching this video made me feel guilty when I get lazy because I often don't realize how lucky I am to have my family and to have such a great education.
"Florida Fields..."
-The bosses of the slaves in this article truly bother me. How could they be so cruel to the point where they lock their slaves in a van with no place to go to the bathroom? I am so embarrassed that America is filled with people like these who only care about money and not the lives of other human beings. It also disgusts me in the article where it says that government officials in Florida didn't show much outrage over the case. After reading this article, I know that I'll feel bad eating my daily fruit filled breakfast now that I know who is picking and who is getting the money.
"Americans who fled drought..."
-This was another article where I feel like children missed out on life, or at least childhood. It bothered me that wealthier kids at school called the migrant children "hobo brats" and often made fun of them. No one should feel ashamed of their background and should never be made fun of because they don't have much money. I wish I could have told these kids not to worry about the mean kids at school and to just keep their eyes on the future. Lastly, I never thought of relating the GOW situation to Hurricane Katrina, because they are very much alike. I'm so glad that, although times were rough at one point, some of the people in New Orleans have kept their heads up and are trying to get their city back on track.
Kelly L, P5
After watching the video of the migrant families working in the fields, I wasn't too shocked. I feel sad for the two year olds and the six year olds that are out in the sun all day working, damaging their backs and bodies at such a young age. However, this did not come as a surprise to me because it is human instinct to survive, and if a family needs a few extra hands to survive in this world, they will use them. I did learn from this video that the working age on farms is only 12 years old which did surprise me a little. I think this is a very common practice among lower class families because of the great need of money.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading, “Americans Who Fled Drought in the 1930’s Found Little Sympathy” by Cynthia Crossen, I definitely believe that people now a days are becoming a little too dependent on the government, federal and state. Generations before now clearly did what they had to survive, and they illustrated perfectly the law of survival of the fittest to us. Those who moved and adapted to their situations were the people who lived and maybe even thrived from their experience. When Hurricane Katrina hit, and the government warned people to move, and no one did, everyone turned to the President for aid and assistance. Although the government should give some help to those of its people who are in need, it cannot spend all of its money saving citizens who don’t listen, move, and don’t try to help themselves. Hurricane Katrina was a tragedy, but it didn’t have to be so bad, and that is why I agree with the title of this article of not finding sympathy. Those who were in the drought were in the same situation as Hurricane Katrina and the Dust Bowl and didn’t show as much of a will to survive as those living during the Dust Bowl. Out of these three situations, the people of the Dust Bowl clearly were the most apt to push forward and work hard for their own well-being and survival while the people during these two other times acted helpless and lazy at times.
“Florida fields being picked by slave labor” by Bill Maxwell really opened my eyes to the horrors that still exist in this country. I can’t believe the things the Navarette’s pleaded guilty to, they were too brutal. Slavery clearly still does exist in the US even though it isn’t legal or open anymore. People who know about these things need to speak out and stop these injustices. I believe farmer’s should be able to unionize because that would give them more protection and leverage. At this point, owners of the plantations may have to suffer a little because of some very cruel actions made by particular farm owners.
*Why would a farm be an exception to the working age?
*Why are people becoming so dependent on the government? How can we make people more independent, capable, and strong?
*Why do people think it’s okay to things like beat, chain, drug, and hold hostage their workers? Why is slavery still going on today?
Steph E
Dear Jenna L,
ReplyDeleteYour thoughts on the articles were truly amazing. I really liked this section of your summary.
"After all the pain and suffering men and women encountered in our nation's history, people are still wiling to punish people based upon their race, class, age, etc. You'd think after all our country and it's people have been through together, having to unite as one, more peace would come about the people. It astonishes me that slavery still exists and that children are exposed to such poor treatment to this very day."
I could not have put it into better words and I completely agree with you. You would think that after such a tough history of discrimination we would move on from that. I really can't understand how people STILL are not treated equally and this article definitely shows that America is not truly what it says it is.
AWESOME JOB!
Love Kelly L, P5
After watching the video of the migrant families working in the fields, I wasn't too shocked. I feel sad for the two year olds and the six year olds that are out in the sun all day working, damaging their backs and bodies at such a young age. However, this did not come as a surprise to me because it is human instinct to survive, and if a family needs a few extra hands to survive in this world, they will use them. I did learn from this video that the working age on farms is only 12 years old which did surprise me a little. I think this is a very common practice among lower class families because of the great need of money. After reading, “Americans Who Fled Drought in the 1930’s Found Little Sympathy” by Cynthia Crossen, I definitely believe that people now a days are becoming a little too dependent on the government, federal and state. Generations before now clearly did what they had to survive, and they illustrated perfectly the law of survival of the fittest to us. When Hurricane Katrina hit, and the government warned people to move, and no one did, everyone turned to the President for aid and assistance. Although the government should give some help to those of its people who are in need, it cannot spend all of its money saving citizens who don’t try to help themselves. Hurricane Katrina was a tragedy, but it didn’t have to be so bad, and that is why I agree with the title of this article of not finding sympathy. Those who were in the drought were in the same situation as Hurricane Katrina and the Dust Bowl and didn’t show as much of a will to survive as those living during the Dust Bowl. Out of these three situations, the people of the Dust Bowl clearly were the most apt to push forward and work hard for their own well-being and survival while the people during these two other times acted helpless and lazy at times. “Florida fields being picked by slave labor” by Bill Maxwell really opened my eyes to the horrors that still exist in this country. I can’t believe the things the Navarette’s pleaded guilty to, they were too brutal. Slavery clearly still does exist in the US even though it isn’t legal or open anymore. People who know about these things need to speak out and stop these injustices. I believe farmer’s should be able to unionize because that would give them more protection and leverage. At this point, owners of the plantations may have to suffer a little because of some very cruel actions made by particular farm owners.
ReplyDelete*Why would a farm be an exception to the working age?
*Why do people think it’s okay to things like beat, chain, drug, and hold hostage their workers?
The video, “America Now: Children of the Harvest” had the strongest impact on me. It is hard for me to believe that there are situations in which parents can justify making their children work like that. The most shocking parts of the video for me were the images of the youngest children doing work that many grown adults would not be able to do. It is also clearly evident that they are already experiencing consequences of the work they do, which will most likely affect them for the rest of their life, like the boy with back pains. It is unbelievable to be that these children do not complain about the manual labor they are completing, but only of helping their family survive just one more day. The video makes me wonder at the little things I am expected to do, but complain about so much, while there are others who work so hard and have so much less than me. The article we read, authored by Cynthia Crossen, said, “Whole families worked in the fields, earning barely enough to feed themselves. When one crop was harvested, the workers moved on to the next.” This reminds me so much of the Joad family and their struggles to make ends meet, just trying to get by. It seems that things don't change so much as we think they do, the only thing that changes is the name we give to it. I do think that both the articles and the video helped me to understand present-day America much more.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Does history truly repeat itself, or do things change enough to make them different than what has already happened, their own entities?
Sophia: I don't think it is fair that they can hold a job in the fields but not in a store. Furthermore, I don't think it's right that they can even hold a job in the field in the first place! Children should be in school learning, not in fields picking blueberries to help their family. No child should be forced to that.
-Carley W. p5
Ryan,
ReplyDeleteI'm sure it is very possible that some of these things happen in CT just like they do in Florida and California, however, I'm sure that they don't happen to that degree. This is mostly because in CT we don't have very many large farms and plantations like Florida and California, which provide most of our produce. Sadly, this type of slavery is still going on because it is hidden from the public eye and those who do know about it don't speak out against it. It is shameful that these things still go on in our country which is looked upon as a country of freedoms.
Steph E
p.s. Mrs. Baker, I wrote my comments and reactions in a word document before I tried to post it and it was too big...I didn't know what to get rid of so I'm just going to print it for you!
Bill Maxwell's article really made me think about what goes into a customer getting food for cheap prices. I am appalled at the fact that this day in age there is still slavery going on. Every man is created equal, and it is disgusting that any boss would abuse their workers, never mind keeping their workers in chains. I was shocked to read that these fields in Florida aren't being watched more carefully. If farmers can't form unions, then it should be the towns responsibility to watch over the farms and make sure nothing shady is going on.
ReplyDeleteI also never realized how similar America's natural disasters are to each other. Hurricane Katrina and the Dust Bowl were two major disasters in the U.S. that left thousands of people devistated. They left entire cities of people homeless and starving. I can't believe I never drew a parallel to these two disasters before!
Lastly, after watching the video, and the two articles I wonder if this form of slavery happens in other places? Why aren't authorities monitering these farms better?
Leah S. Period 5
After reading the two articles and watching the clip, the one idea that sticks in the back of my head beyond all other topics is how fortunate I am for the life I live. It makes me think of all the times i say "Oh my god i have no clothes" when really I have a whole closet full. Or when I say "Mom we have no food" when the whole clothes is full of snacks that I just don't feel like. It makes me feel extremely fortunate for the life that I live. I complain about going to school everyday while some children don't even get to go to school and get an education because they are forced to go work in the fields. Not only to they have to work in the fields, but the working conditions are not good at at all and definitely not safe, especially for children. Reading the article about the slavery that still goes on in Florida today makes me very upset to read about. I had no idea that things like this were still going on, and I don't think that many other people in America do either. It makes me think if there are more acts of slavery going on in other parts of our country today that we just don't know about. Overall reading these articles and watching the video left me thinking of how fortunate I should be for the life I live.
ReplyDeleteAs i read about the child labor, I wonder if more people knew about this issue or other issues like child labor in factories would they not buy those clothes? Or as someone else said would people try to use local farms instead if chain markets?
In my opinion it would be great to be able to buy clothes that I knew were made only in the US and fresh fruit and veggies always from the local farm stand, but when it comes down to it my family and I can not afford to acts such as these along with many other families right now.
Grace N.
Period 6
I feel that the news video caught my attention the most. I thought it was horrible how there were kids as young as 5 working on a farm all day long in the heat. That is not the right environment for kids that little. I found it surprising that it is allowed to have a child as young as 12 years legally "slaving" themselves out on a farm all day long harvesting crops. I feel if there is a law on a real job and farming labor, then the ages should be switched around. A lower age for an indoor job with food, water, and breaks, and a higher age for a job out in the fields. I was also shocked by the kind of slavery that still exists in America today. I thought that was stopped years ago! All of this has definitely changed my views on America a little bit.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it that America thinks children can work out in a field all day long at a younger age than they can at somewhere like a restaurant or a store?
-Jess B. p.5
Jenna L,
ReplyDeleteYour final question really had a huge impact on my views after reading these articles, watching the clip, and reading others blogs. I feel that your question that states, Does tragedy truly bring people together? Or does it encourage more negatives including slavery & hard labor? is right on the dot! Before reading this i would have thought that in some cases certain people and groups can be brought together by tragedy cause it can help them to get through things and in cases respond to the issue. Like in The Grapes of Wrath when the migrants would come to together to rebel against the farms and the police because they are stronger as a whole.
Then I read things like these articles and your question, when i think of all that america went through and goes through still today to put a stop t slavery, and to hear it is still happening makes me mad and upset, and really leaves me thinking.
Awsome post!
Love you, Grace!
Katrice,
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with your thoughts on the slavery, I wrote like the same thing. I was so surprised that it still existed like that today. To answer your question I think that the hard labor will affect people in a negative way. It will cause them to feel fatigued and may also cause bad attitudes because they become so tired.
-Jess B.
What caught my attention the most was when in the video they said that these children were old enough to do back breaking labor in fields yet they were too young to be working to stock shelves in a small grocery store. Does that seem fair?
ReplyDeleteAnother thing that I really thought about was the song "The ghost of Tom Joad". If you listen to both versions of it, Rage Against the Machine really does a nice job of showing the anger of someone that would have dealt with the things most of the migrant families dealt with back during the dust bowl, and the song mainly all about the book, but in many cases, I feel it really relates to present day poverty. It all has to do with prevailing in times of injustice, like police brutality, etc.
Like I mentioned earlier, do you think it's fair that these children can pick in fields but can't work in a store?
Olivia N. 6.
Noah.
ReplyDeleteYou pose a great question. I didn't really think about the real use of child labor laws until I read your comment. I'm not sure if lowering the age would do any good... I have a feeling more people would lose their jobs, and I feel like no offense to 12 year olds... but that's just way too young to handle a job. Hell in middle school you're new to 5th grade and you can barely get your head around that... let alone a job.
But I do think it wouldn't hurt if the age was lowered to 15, because I think it's not much of a difference from 16 and I'm pretty sure it's manageable.
Olivia N 6.
Mrs. Baker,
ReplyDeleteI forgot my discussion Q!
Q: In this day and age, Is having young children and slaves work on farms unethical?
Kelly L, P5
The video clip outraged me. I was shocked that children of such a young age were forced to do manual labor on farms.Throughout the entire video, I felt an imense amount of compassion for the children. Additionally, I felt extremely grateful that I do not have to perform that kind of labor at all in my life. In my opinion, children should be going to school, playing with friends, and enjoying the normal activites that children do, not working on a farm. I think that most children felt bad for their parents, and felt as if it was their job to help support, because they knew no different. In the article by Cynthia Crossen, I was bothered that during the time of the Great Depression, there was no financial help offered to anyone. I did not know that this was a time period before food stamps or Medicaid. The article as well as the Krause family mentioned in the article remidns me of what the Joad family suffered through in The Grapes of Wrath. The slavery acts in Florida also made a huge impact on me. Personally, I think that the time period of slavery was the worst time period America ever went through. The thought of using another human sickens me and I am apaulled that it is still relevant. The handout about The Dust Bowl really gave me a mental picture of what the country looked like during this devastating time. I could just imagine what the farmers had to go through. I saw how desperate people were for work and how hard it was to find it. These four sources gave me a better understanding of how people were forced to live during the Dust Bowl and Great Depression in America.
ReplyDeleteDo you think that the country could have done more to help Americans during the Great Depression, or do you think it was impossible for the government to do anything about it?
Ryan, you made some awesome points in your response. I am one of the Americans that find it hard to believe that people in our country are still pleading guilty to slavery as well. In regards to your question, I would not doubt that in some places in our country (possibly still in the south) there are still some forms of slavery occuring. To me, slavery can also be described as a job where you are physically abused, making an unreasonable amount of money, and you are unable to get out of the job. People go through this every day, but the government does not know.
Amanda M period 5
The video clip outraged me. I was shocked that children of such a young age were forced to do manual labor on farms.Throughout the entire video, I felt an imense amount of compassion for the children. Additionally, I felt extremely grateful that I do not have to perform that kind of labor at all in my life. In my opinion, children should be going to school, playing with friends, and enjoying the normal activites that children do, not working on a farm. I think that most children felt bad for their parents, and felt as if it was their job to help support, because they knew no different. In the article by Cynthia Crossen, I was bothered that during the time of the Great Depression, there was no financial help offered to anyone. I did not know that this was a time period before food stamps or Medicaid. The article as well as the Krause family mentioned in the article remidns me of what the Joad family suffered through in The Grapes of Wrath. The slavery acts in Florida also made a huge impact on me. Personally, I think that the time period of slavery was the worst time period America ever went through. The thought of using another human sickens me and I am apaulled that it is still relevant. The handout about The Dust Bowl really gave me a mental picture of what the country looked like during this devastating time. I could just imagine what the farmers had to go through. I saw how desperate people were for work and how hard it was to find it. These four sources gave me a better understanding of how people were forced to live during the Dust Bowl and Great Depression in America.
ReplyDeleteDo you think that the country could have done more to help Americans during the Great Depression, or do you think it was impossible for the government to do anything about it?
Ryan, you made some awesome points in your response. I am one of the Americans that find it hard to believe that people in our country are still pleading guilty to slavery as well. In regards to your question, I would not doubt that in some places in our country (possibly still in the south) there are still some forms of slavery occuring. To me, slavery can also be described as a job where you are physically abused, making an unreasonable amount of money, and you are unable to get out of the job. People go through this every day, but the government does not know.
Amanda M period 5
When this assignment was assigned, I was surprised, when reading the articles and watching the news clip. These children at the young age of 11 and 12 are doing work that is far beyond where they are in their childhood. Its one thing to help your parents in the summer by not being selfless but the work they are doing is too much for a child to have to bare. It really got me self reflecting on what I have and how fortunate I am. If my parents wanted me to work in a farm all summer long, I wouldn't be happy. It's hard to believe our child labor laws aren't being enforced to an extent. It was heartbreaking, to see the little girl in the news clip, that had just probably learned how to walk, helping her family.
ReplyDeleteWhat should the legal age be to work?
Reema C. Period 5
Jess!
ReplyDeleteYou bring up a good point, but I believe those are two completely different things. For one, the work is on two different levels. Working on a farm is labor work , while catering is something else. In other words, in the summer you could volunteer to work on a farm but not at a restaurant.
Reema C.