Comment: This story is very similar to “Speaking of Courage” because they show us how difficult it is to come home after war. I think that O’Brien wrote this story as in memory of Norman because he felt bad that he didn’t say what Norman wanted him to say in the other book.
Question: Do you think O’Brien feels responsible for Norman’s death?
1. This chapter was all about 1.Norman and how he had ended up killing himself over the fact of Kiowa’s death back in Vietnam he didn’t want to through life , so to compensate for his death Tim O’Brien wrote this chapter in the book so he could finally rest at ease 2. Why does Norman make it seem that he killed kiowa? -Paolo
Amanda D says... The chapter definitely clearified from the last chapter about how Norman Bowker was truly feeling. The parts in the letter where his “tone jump[ed] from self-pity to anger to irony to guilt to a kind of indifference.” Helped showed that he was so lost in his own feelings. I feel like Bowker felt failed on O’Brien’s piece of true Vietnam and explaining his feelings.
The sad part about this chapter is finding out that Norman hanged himself with a jump rope, but "Notes" actually doesn't have to be all that sad. A positive thought about it is that O' Brien took Bowker's story idea and used it to make him happy. Even though Bowker didn't like the first copy, O' Brien revises it so Norman Bowker is back in the story.
I don't see why Norman hanged himself though. Was it because he realized his life was the same thing every day and he wasn't really getting anywhere?
I think that norman bowker hanged himself because he felt responsible for the death of Kiowa. Also, Bowker wanted to tell his story, but nobody seemed to want to listen.
question: what does this quote mean? "Norman did not experience a failure of nerve that night. He did not freeze up or lose the sliver star for valor. That part of the story is my own" (161)
Comment: I think that after the war Norman Bowker feels like no one really understands what he had gone through. I think that Norman thinks Kiowa’s death was partially his fault and that if he had tried to save him, Kiowa would still be alive. I believe that Norman went through PTSD after the war because of this incident.
Question: Why did Norman always drive around town alone at night?
1. Comment: I think that this story explains more about O'Brien's feelings. It shows how he still feels the affects of losing Kiowa, Bowker, and others during the war. I think that he wrote these stories to remember and honor them. 2. Question: Do you think that these deaths might get to be too much for O'Brien, and he might end up killing himself too?
Brianna, personally I don't think that O' Brien feels repsonsible for his death but I do believe that he feels bad for not writing the story that Norman thought he was going to read.
I think that it is interesting how Tim O'Brien is able to fictionalize events from his experience in Vietnam to get at the truth. I wonder how much of "Speaking of Courage" is Tim's story and how much is Norman's.
Why did Tim O'Brien put his own experiences (freezing up & loosing the silver star) in to the story/life of Norman Bowker?
This chapter was a lot like the chapter before. They both talk about how hard it is to come home from war and go through everyday life. Except this one is more focused on how Norman killed himself.
Question: After O'Brien talks about how all war storys arent completley true. how much do you think of the storys are true.?
Brianna- I feel as though Tim O'brien might feel a little guilty for Norman Bowker's death because Norman really just wanted someone to tell his story and for someone to actually listen to him. Unfortunatly Norman never was able to read this book and wasn't able to know that someone did listen to him, and somenoe knows his story.
This chapter was interesting the way the author explained how people didnt understand the true feelings of being in the war. People just thought the war was wrong or right, not thinking about the true difficulties of fighting it.
kiowa said that its kind of like he got killed over in nam when i think that was the main reason why he killed himself. Hes sayin that his soul died so hes numb to everything. He is also stuck with those memories of the war which is like a broken tape in his head that wont stop playin. The only way to make it stop was to die.
“Notes” was a well needed chapter in TTTC. It answered questions from the previous chapter and it gave us a better idea on what kind of person Norman was. Norman lived a life that was based on guilt and regret. His reasoning for this letter was to show readers his own interpretations of the after war affect. Like the author Tim O’Brien said , “For years I’d felt a certain smugness about how easily I had made the shift from war to peace. A nice smooth glide- no flashbacks or midnight sweats”. (157) this quote shows that some people could get over and others can’t like Norman. Why do you think Norman hung himself?
3. Comment on others: I think that Bowker drives around a lot, to get away from it all. He uses this time to be alone, and think about all of the things that are on his mind.
I think that Norman Bowker kill himself because he couldn't cope with nomal everyday life in the states. The war must have changed him alot if he couldn't go back to norman civilian living.
I think that when Tim got Norman’s letter he should have worried about his friend. It was a very dark letter about how Bowker couldn’t find a place where he felt like he belonged, his depression took over to the point where he felt suicide was the only option.
In the chapter, notes, it answered a lot of questions that i had in the last chapter. Even though this chaper was sad i felt as though it helped me a lot with understanding why Norman Bowker killed himself.
Why did Norman Bowker not able to hold a job for more than 10 weeks?
"Notes" continuted he story of "Speaking of Courage". it told us how Norman had killed himslef three years after returning home from the war. This shows that it is hard for soliders to get over war, and many years after the come back home it still bothers him. this was one way O' Brien morned his death.
Question- Do all these death make a big impact for Tim O' Brien?
Comment: I felt like the story, "Notes," was real. I feel like most of the other stories in this book, were over exaggerted, but not this one. I could really see what happened in this story happen in real life. It's the sad truth but many people that come home from war just can't handle the change. "He had worked briefly as an automotive parts salesman, a janitor, a car wash attendant, and a short-order cook...," this shows how hard it is to get back into a normal life after war.
Question: Do you think if O'Brien didn't have his writing he might have gone off the deep end, like Norman did, too?
In this chapter, the thing that caught my eye was that after all of these years, and Norman wrote to Tim asking him to write Norman’s story. Which made me wonder that maybe Norman gained some courage about people knowing his story. Question: Why would Norman want people to know what happen to him in Vietnam?
Norman couldnt keep his job for very long possibly because he suffered from PTSD and wasn't able to work peacefully. He probably felt out of place and embarresed.
Comment on Nicole P: I think that he couldn't hold the jobs for more then ten weeks because he knew this wasn't what he wanted to do. When Norman came home from the war he was completely lost and I think that these jobs just made it more noticable. I believe that's why he ended up killing himself becasue he couldn't find himself.
Comment: The chapter "Notes" was important for O'brien to write because he felt bad that he hadn't wrote all the deatils that Norman wanted him to. I think that this chapter helped him cope with Norman's death.
Question: Why did Norman want O'brien to write a story about himself so badly?
Comment on Question: I think O'brien felt a little responsible for Norman's death because when he found out that he hung himself, he decided to write this chapter. I think he felt guilty that he hadn't wrote all the details that Norman wanted him to the first time. This chapter was colsure for Tim.
I agree with the statements that Eric k said. While at war and not at war Tim lost a lot of friends. They all had to impact him some way. With writing these stories, it help tim deal with all the deathes.
In the chapter, "Notes", Norman Bowker wrote a letter to Tim O'Brien and within this letter He mentions the night Kiowa died and how he felt like he died with Kiowa that night. I found that to be the most important part of the chapter because it shows how losing a friend in war can affect a man. Norman mentions that he never really was the same after he came home from Vietnam. He couldn't keep a job, He spent his mornings sleeping, his afternoons playing basketball, and then his nights just driving around like he did in "Speakingto of Courage". Norman wanted Tim to write about that night for Norman, so it could help him cope but Tim left out that night with Kiowa and Norman just couldn't take the stress and pain anymore. So he commited suicide.
Why did Tim leave out that night when Kiowa died in the story that Norman wanted him to write??
I thought that this chapter was very eye opening. Unlike how Tim O'Brien was able to make a quick and easy transition back into peace,the transition back to a normal life was difficult for Norman Bowker. This story sheds light on the terrible after affects that a war can leave on a man. "...Bowker described the problem of finding a meaningful use for his life after the war." pg.155 This quote alone shows the reason why Bowker committed suicide.
I like your question Rosalie D. per 2 and I believe that Norman wanted Tim O'Brien to write a story about him so badly to help him cope. Norman mentioned how he tried to write about it but couldn't find the words and that he knew Tim could. So it may have just been to help him cope and move on.
answer to brianna c. i think o'brien does feel somewhat guilty for norman's death, he probably thinks that if he wouldve included all the details about the field that norman might not have killed himself
this chapter was kinda strange. i was surprised to learn that norman bowker hung himself in a ymca locker room. norman was not the same after the war. he went to work at plenty of jobs but he only lasted a short period of time. he felt that he had no point in life so he just decieded to hang himself.
I think this story was to clear things up with O'Brein and how he actually felt about the war. He came out and adimitted it was hard to write and how he never liked to think about what happened to Kiowa. "-I was afraid to speak directly, afraid to remember-," (159) O'Brein also wrote this story in honor of Norman Bowker, and gave him full respect.
Question: Why did he completely lie about Norman not trying hard to save Kiowa?
I believe that tim o'brien was comparing himself to Norman Bowker when he wrote this chapter. Norman never could gt past veitnam while Tim made peace. He became very sucessful while Norman could not hold down a job and eventually comitted suicide.
Why did tim o'brien say that that Norman froze up and lost silver star for valor?
I think that over time Norman Bowker started to want to be heard more. He started to realize that the rest of his life would be about Vietnam and he would be affected by it. That Is why I think he ultimately hanged himself, he realized that he could never live the rest of his life the way he wanted to before the war.
Question- Do you think Tim O'Brian partially blames himself for Norman Bowker's death?
O’Brien realized that in order to be successful, the story would have to stand on its own truth. This story explains the chaper before.. "Speaking of Courage" it implies how Norman didnt have enough courage and shows the responsibility for the death of Kiowa.
"there's no place to go. Not just in this lousy town. In general. My life." (160)
To me I believe theres many means but what I got most out of what Norman Bowker is saying is that Nam really did change him. He went to war one person and is now a completely different person. This happens to a lot of people at war, it really shows a lot.
On someone else's comment, it asked if O'Brien blamed himself for Bowker's death. I think this is a great point to focus on because according to the book, Bowker did kill himself eight months after reading a copy of "Notes."
I think in the chapter "notes" it really shows the hardships the soldiers go through during their duty in the war. It also shows the effects the war brings to the men afterwards. I also think Norman might have thought about killing himself while he was writing this letten since it was written in 1975. I also think Kiowa's death really had an impact on Norman and that could be another reason why he hung himself three years later.
Do you think Kiowa's death was the main reason why Norman decided to hang himself?
Tim O. I think the thing most that causes Norman Bowker to kill himself was Kiowa's death and just the war in general. Norman felt when he got home that wherever he worked it did not end up even lasting more than 10 weeks. Then he started junior college and ended up dropping after 8 months. All and all, I think the war had ended up being a big, bad effect on his life, causing him to commit suicide.
This story gave me the same feeling as "Speaking of Courage" because it shows how much Norman was affected by going to war. It also shows how much war effects you and how much people get emotionally disabled and sometimes go nuts. I think Norman killed himself because he just didn't know what to do anymore, he couldn't face the reality that things have changed.
Question: Do you think O'Brien feel responsible for Norman's death?
I think that this chapter and the previous chapter, "Speaking of Courage," both have similarities, one being that they both focus on describing to the reader how hard it is to go through everyday life after you have been involved in something as depressing as a war. Deirdre M. Period 1
1.)I believe that 'Notes' shows a sad truth about war. This truth is that war doesn't only affect your present, but it also affects your future, causing mental distress and other problems later on. Norman suffered from this, and hung himself out of misery. In my opinion, nobody deserves to die in that way, and especially not for those reasons. I think it's great that Tim o' Brien honored Norman by writing a story for him into his book. 2.) What is the signifigance of the Silver Star to Norman? Why does he beat himself up for it all these years later?
this chapter answered my question about the previous one. i thought that this chapter was relatively short for what the author explained.
ReplyDeletequestion: did norman bowker kill himself because the author left out the parts about kiowa and the shit field/?
"Its not terrible...but you left out Vietnam..."(160)
ReplyDeleteI think that maybe this quote explains Norman's death. Because Tim didn't give him a story explaining what Kiowa's death was like, he hanged himself
Comment:
ReplyDeleteThis story is very similar to “Speaking of Courage” because they show us how difficult it is to come home after war. I think that O’Brien wrote this story as in memory of Norman because he felt bad that he didn’t say what Norman wanted him to say in the other book.
Question:
Do you think O’Brien feels responsible for Norman’s death?
thanks weylin that makes sense
ReplyDelete1. This chapter was all about 1.Norman and how he had ended up killing himself over the fact of Kiowa’s death back in Vietnam he didn’t want to through life , so to compensate for his death Tim O’Brien wrote this chapter in the book so he could finally rest at ease
ReplyDelete2. Why does Norman make it seem that he killed kiowa?
-Paolo
Amanda D says...
ReplyDeleteThe chapter definitely clearified from the last chapter about how Norman Bowker was truly feeling. The parts in the letter where his “tone jump[ed] from self-pity to anger to irony to guilt to a kind of indifference.” Helped showed that he was so lost in his own feelings. I feel like Bowker felt failed on O’Brien’s piece of true Vietnam and explaining his feelings.
does o'brien blame himself for bowker's death?
The sad part about this chapter is finding out that Norman hanged himself with a jump rope, but "Notes" actually doesn't have to be all that sad. A positive thought about it is that O' Brien took Bowker's story idea and used it to make him happy. Even though Bowker didn't like the first copy, O' Brien revises it so Norman Bowker is back in the story.
ReplyDeleteI don't see why Norman hanged himself though. Was it because he realized his life was the same thing every day and he wasn't really getting anywhere?
Mike G
Even though this chapter was short, it was interesting. I like how Tim O'Brian shares his stories from his experience.
ReplyDeleteI think that norman bowker hanged himself because he felt responsible for the death of Kiowa. Also, Bowker wanted to tell his story, but nobody seemed to want to listen.
ReplyDeletequestion: what does this quote mean? "Norman did not experience a failure of nerve that night. He did not freeze up or lose the sliver star for valor. That part of the story is my own" (161)
thanks mike my understanding was quiet Oblique untill your comment helped clear it up
ReplyDeleteComment: I think that after the war Norman Bowker feels like no one really understands what he had gone through. I think that Norman thinks Kiowa’s death was partially his fault and that if he had tried to save him, Kiowa would still be alive. I believe that Norman went through PTSD after the war because of this incident.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Why did Norman always drive around town alone at night?
1. Comment:
ReplyDeleteI think that this story explains more about O'Brien's feelings. It shows how he still feels the affects of losing Kiowa, Bowker, and others during the war. I think that he wrote these stories to remember and honor them.
2. Question:
Do you think that these deaths might get to be too much for O'Brien, and he might end up killing himself too?
Eric K.---Period 1
Brianna, personally I don't think that O' Brien feels repsonsible for his death but I do believe that he feels bad for not writing the story that Norman thought he was going to read.
ReplyDeleteMike g
I think that it is interesting how Tim O'Brien is able to fictionalize events from his experience in Vietnam to get at the truth. I wonder how much of "Speaking of Courage" is Tim's story and how much is Norman's.
ReplyDeleteWhy did Tim O'Brien put his own experiences (freezing up & loosing the silver star) in to the story/life of Norman Bowker?
This chapter was a lot like the chapter before. They both talk about how hard it is to come home from war and go through everyday life. Except this one is more focused on how Norman killed himself.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: After O'Brien talks about how all war storys arent completley true. how much do you think of the storys are true.?
Brianna-
ReplyDeleteI feel as though Tim O'brien might feel a little guilty for Norman Bowker's death because Norman really just wanted someone to tell his story and for someone to actually listen to him. Unfortunatly Norman never was able to read this book and wasn't able to know that someone did listen to him, and somenoe knows his story.
-Carly P. Period 1
This chapter was interesting the way the author explained how people didnt understand the true feelings of being in the war. People just thought the war was wrong or right, not thinking about the true difficulties of fighting it.
ReplyDeletekiowa said that its kind of like he got killed over in nam when i think that was the main reason why he killed himself. Hes sayin that his soul died so hes numb to everything. He is also stuck with those memories of the war which is like a broken tape in his head that wont stop playin. The only way to make it stop was to die.
ReplyDelete“Notes” was a well needed chapter in TTTC. It answered questions from the previous chapter and it gave us a better idea on what kind of person Norman was. Norman lived a life that was based on guilt and regret. His reasoning for this letter was to show readers his own interpretations of the after war affect. Like the author Tim O’Brien said , “For years I’d felt a certain smugness about how easily I had made the shift from war to peace. A nice smooth glide- no flashbacks or midnight sweats”. (157) this quote shows that some people could get over and others can’t like Norman.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think Norman hung himself?
Gianna M
3. Comment on others:
ReplyDeleteI think that Bowker drives around a lot, to get away from it all. He uses this time to be alone, and think about all of the things that are on his mind.
Eric K.---Period 1
I think that Norman Bowker kill himself because he couldn't cope with nomal everyday life in the states. The war must have changed him alot if he couldn't go back to norman civilian living.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think Norman killed himself?
I think that when Tim got Norman’s letter he should have worried about his friend. It was a very dark letter about how Bowker couldn’t find a place where he felt like he belonged, his depression took over to the point where he felt suicide was the only option.
ReplyDeleteWhy doesn’t O’Brien go to check on his friend?
Justin B.
In the chapter, notes, it answered a lot of questions that i had in the last chapter. Even though this chaper was sad i felt as though it helped me a lot with understanding why Norman Bowker killed himself.
ReplyDeleteWhy did Norman Bowker not able to hold a job for more than 10 weeks?
Nicole P Period 3
"Notes" continuted he story of "Speaking of Courage". it told us how Norman had killed himslef three years after returning home from the war. This shows that it is hard for soliders to get over war, and many years after the come back home it still bothers him. this was one way O' Brien morned his death.
ReplyDeleteQuestion- Do all these death make a big impact for Tim O' Brien?
Kaili F. period 2
Comment: I felt like the story, "Notes," was real. I feel like most of the other stories in this book, were over exaggerted, but not this one. I could really see what happened in this story happen in real life. It's the sad truth but many people that come home from war just can't handle the change. "He had worked briefly as an automotive parts salesman, a janitor, a car wash attendant, and a short-order cook...," this shows how hard it is to get back into a normal life after war.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Do you think if O'Brien didn't have his writing he might have gone off the deep end, like Norman did, too?
Chandlar F. P. 2
In this chapter, the thing that caught my eye was that after all of these years, and Norman wrote to Tim asking him to write Norman’s story. Which made me wonder that maybe Norman gained some courage about people knowing his story.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Why would Norman want people to know what happen to him in Vietnam?
Nick S, Period 2
Norman couldnt keep his job for very long possibly because he suffered from PTSD and wasn't able to work peacefully. He probably felt out of place and embarresed.
ReplyDeleteJustin B.
Comment on Nicole P:
ReplyDeleteI think that he couldn't hold the jobs for more then ten weeks because he knew this wasn't what he wanted to do. When Norman came home from the war he was completely lost and I think that these jobs just made it more noticable. I believe that's why he ended up killing himself becasue he couldn't find himself.
Chandlar F. P. 2
Comment:
ReplyDeleteThe chapter "Notes" was important for O'brien to write because he felt bad that he hadn't wrote all the deatils that Norman wanted him to. I think that this chapter helped him cope with Norman's death.
Question:
Why did Norman want O'brien to write a story about himself so badly?
Comment on Question:
I think O'brien felt a little responsible for Norman's death because when he found out that he hung himself, he decided to write this chapter. I think he felt guilty that he hadn't wrote all the details that Norman wanted him to the first time. This chapter was colsure for Tim.
Rosalie D. Per 2.
I agree with the statements that Eric k said. While at war and not at war Tim lost a lot of friends. They all had to impact him some way. With writing these stories, it help tim deal with all the deathes.
ReplyDeleteKaili F.
In the chapter, "Notes", Norman Bowker wrote a letter to Tim O'Brien and within this letter He mentions the night Kiowa died and how he felt like he died with Kiowa that night. I found that to be the most important part of the chapter because it shows how losing a friend in war can affect a man. Norman mentions that he never really was the same after he came home from Vietnam. He couldn't keep a job, He spent his mornings sleeping, his afternoons playing basketball, and then his nights just driving around like he did in "Speakingto of Courage". Norman wanted Tim to write about that night for Norman, so it could help him cope but Tim left out that night with Kiowa and Norman just couldn't take the stress and pain anymore. So he commited suicide.
ReplyDeleteWhy did Tim leave out that night when Kiowa died in the story that Norman wanted him to write??
Nikolaus V. Period 2
I thought that this chapter was very eye opening. Unlike how Tim O'Brien was able to make a quick and easy transition back into peace,the transition back to a normal life was difficult for Norman Bowker. This story sheds light on the terrible after affects that a war can leave on a man. "...Bowker described the problem of finding a meaningful use for his life after the war." pg.155 This quote alone shows the reason why Bowker committed suicide.
ReplyDeleteI like your question Rosalie D. per 2 and I believe that Norman wanted Tim O'Brien to write a story about him so badly to help him cope. Norman mentioned how he tried to write about it but couldn't find the words and that he knew Tim could. So it may have just been to help him cope and move on.
ReplyDeleteNikolaus V. Period 2
I was extremely surprised by the end of the chapter. He actually admitted that it wasn't norman that had failed to save kiwoa but himself.
ReplyDeleteWhy did he say that it was norman and then later admitt that it was himself that didnt save kiwoa?
Sarah per 7
answer to brianna c. i think o'brien does feel somewhat guilty for norman's death, he probably thinks that if he wouldve included all the details about the field that norman might not have killed himself
ReplyDeletesarah per 7
this chapter was kinda strange. i was surprised to learn that norman bowker hung himself in a ymca locker room. norman was not the same after the war. he went to work at plenty of jobs but he only lasted a short period of time. he felt that he had no point in life so he just decieded to hang himself.
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mattherw c
period 6
I liked the twist ending about how it was really Tim O'Brian who froze and lost the Silver Star.
ReplyDeleteWhat caused Norman Bowker to kill himself?
Tim O. Per 7
I think this story was to clear things up with O'Brein and how he actually felt about the war. He came out and adimitted it was hard to write and how he never liked to think about what happened to Kiowa. "-I was afraid to speak directly, afraid to remember-," (159) O'Brein also wrote this story in honor of Norman Bowker, and gave him full respect.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Why did he completely lie about Norman not trying hard to save Kiowa?
Julie S. p.7
I believe that tim o'brien was comparing himself to Norman Bowker when he wrote this chapter. Norman never could gt past veitnam while Tim made peace. He became very sucessful while Norman could not hold down a job and eventually comitted suicide.
ReplyDeleteWhy did tim o'brien say that that Norman froze up and lost silver star for valor?
I think that over time Norman Bowker started to want to be heard more. He started to realize that the rest of his life would be about Vietnam and he would be affected by it. That Is why I think he ultimately hanged himself, he realized that he could never live the rest of his life the way he wanted to before the war.
ReplyDeleteQuestion- Do you think Tim O'Brian partially blames himself for Norman Bowker's death?
Comment on Chandlar:
ReplyDeleteI think O'Brien definately would have gone into depression he didn't write out all his thoughts.
Julie S
to steve:
ReplyDeleteNorman killed himself because he could not get past veitnam
O’Brien realized that in order to be successful, the story would have to stand on its own truth. This story explains the chaper before.. "Speaking of Courage" it implies how Norman didnt have enough courage and shows the
ReplyDeleteresponsibility for the death of Kiowa.
Did Norman hang himself because Kiowa's death?
"there's no place to go. Not just in this lousy town. In general. My life." (160)
ReplyDeleteTo me I believe theres many means but what I got most out of what Norman Bowker is saying is that Nam really did change him. He went to war one person and is now a completely different person. This happens to a lot of people at war, it really shows a lot.
Why would Norman Bowker question how O'Brien wrote the original version of "Notes"? Why was everything else so important?
ReplyDeleteOn someone else's comment, it asked if O'Brien blamed himself for Bowker's death. I think this is a great point to focus on because according to the book, Bowker did kill himself eight months after reading a copy of "Notes."
ReplyDeleteI think in the chapter "notes" it really shows the hardships the soldiers go through during their duty in the war. It also shows the effects the war brings to the men afterwards. I also think Norman might have thought about killing himself while he was writing this letten since it was written in 1975. I also think Kiowa's death really had an impact on Norman and that could be another reason why he hung himself three years later.
ReplyDeleteDo you think Kiowa's death was the main reason why Norman decided to hang himself?
Erica M.
Tim O. I think the thing most that causes Norman Bowker to kill himself was Kiowa's death and just the war in general. Norman felt when he got home that wherever he worked it did not end up even lasting more than 10 weeks. Then he started junior college and ended up dropping after 8 months. All and all, I think the war had ended up being a big, bad effect on his life, causing him to commit suicide.
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This story gave me the same feeling as "Speaking of Courage" because it shows how much Norman was affected by going to war. It also shows how much war effects you and how much people get emotionally disabled and sometimes go nuts. I think Norman killed himself because he just didn't know what to do anymore, he couldn't face the reality that things have changed.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Do you think O'Brien feel responsible for Norman's death?
Kelly D.
I think that this chapter and the previous chapter, "Speaking of Courage," both have similarities, one being that they both focus on describing to the reader how hard it is to go through everyday life after you have been involved in something as depressing as a war.
ReplyDeleteDeirdre M. Period 1
1.)I believe that 'Notes' shows a sad truth about war. This truth is that war doesn't only affect your present, but it also affects your future, causing mental distress and other problems later on. Norman suffered from this, and hung himself out of misery. In my opinion, nobody deserves to die in that way, and especially not for those reasons. I think it's great that Tim o' Brien honored Norman by writing a story for him into his book.
ReplyDelete2.) What is the signifigance of the Silver Star to Norman? Why does he beat himself up for it all these years later?
Jim P.